Mail.app and other MUAs

[Patrick Ben Koetter]

Hello Achim,

* Achim J. Latz <achim+automx at qustodium.net>:
> On 29/05/2012 21:27, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote:
> >Mail.app isn't supported at the moment.
> 
> Just checked, and entries of the following kind:
> 
> <Protocol>
> <Type>EXPR</Type>
> <Server>qustodium.net</Server>
> <LoginName><?php echo $matches[1]; ?></LoginName>
> <ASUrl>https://autodiscover.domain.tld/ews/exchange.asmx</ASUrl>
> </Protocol>
> 
> are "understood" and (correctly) generate a 404 error for
> /ews/exchange.asmx. It appears that autodiscover.xml is always read,
> but only EXPR triggers a reaction from Mail.app.
> 
> All other protocols (IMAP, SMTP, POP) are apparently ignored, at
> least on Snow Leopard. Perhaps somebody could check with Lion?
> 
> So the list of supported MUAs as per the web page is indeed
> 
> + Outlook 2007+
> + Thunderbird 3+
> + KMail
> + Evolution
> + Kontact

Yes. If it ain't documented it is not guaranteed to work. (Wietse always
replies this on postfix-users).

But I need to keep quiet. There's still a lot of documentation to write and I
am drowned in work.

> In order to support these two platforms:
> 
> ? MS Mobiles
> ? iOS
> 
> can you keep the list updated on what you decide with Christian on
> the ActiveSync http issue?

Yes, we will. Christian and I are very interested in making automx a complete
account setup tool. In the meantime you and others might want to tell the
folks at kaiten <http://kaitenmail.com/> to integrate the autoconfig-Patch
someone submitted at GSoC... :)


> And did you test Windows Phone 7 or what does "MS Mobiles" refer to?

We did not for lack of hardware.

> > Our research showed one either
> >provides an ActiveSync server or stores an XML configuration template on the
> >client side. Storing a file on the client goes against the idea of network
> >based configuration and as for ActiveSync we haven't been able yet to figure
> >out the bits and pieces that need to be sent to provision an SMTP/POP/IMAP
> >server.
> 
> Please note that Mail.app does *not* use ActiveSync, but rather
> Exchange Web Services EWS), whereas iOS *does* use ActiveSync which
> can be emulated with the aforementioned z-push.
> 
> While investigating this, I found the DavMail EWS-to-IMAP/SMTP/...
> gateway [1] which "provide[s] standard compliant protocols in front
> of proprietary Exchange" (read "Exchange appears as IMAP").

Hmmm, interesting.

> In order to be able to use auto discovery for Snow Leopard Mail.app
> which in turn requires EWS as demonstrated, we would need just the
> opposite ("IMAP acts as EWS").
> 
> I will see what I can find.

Thanks.

p at rick


> 
> Best regards, Achim
> 
> [1] <http://davmail.sourceforge.net/>
> 

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